Comments on: No Mushrooms in Fiore http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/ fashion, food & etiquette for the ethically handsome man Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fran http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-2141 Fran Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:39:33 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-2141 As a post note, I came across your blog while trying to find info. on portobellos and carcinogenic effects. I appreciate your letting people make comments to your blog even if they disagree. I would like to retract the part where I said you shouldn't have been shocked, I cannot tell you how to feel. I just disagree with your reaction. I hope you do find more vegan restaurants popping up in your area. Again, while I am not a vegan, I would like to be able to have the choice to eat at a vegan restaurant where I live... maybe some day. As a post note, I came across your blog while trying to find info. on portobellos and carcinogenic effects. I appreciate your letting people make comments to your blog even if they disagree. I would like to retract the part where I said you shouldn’t have been shocked, I cannot tell you how to feel. I just disagree with your reaction. I hope you do find more vegan restaurants popping up in your area. Again, while I am not a vegan, I would like to be able to have the choice to eat at a vegan restaurant where I live… maybe some day.

]]> By: Fran http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-2140 Fran Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:27:31 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-2140 I'm not an expert but I did read in a health magazine similar to what Phil posted. I forget if cooking makes it worse or not. I think anything has the possibility of being carcinogenic b/c certain things affect people differently. I personally won't be eating portobellos because I think I can live without them since I'm not a vegan. I personally feel if you expect more variety with regard to vegan dishes, you should patronize a vegan restaurant or write a letter of suggestion to the owner/manager of a restaurant you would like to see feature more vegan dishes. I don't think you should've been shocked by the manager's reaction, yeah, it was kind of rude, but you don't own/run the restaurant. Sometimes I feel if people don't get what they want merely b/c they suggest it, they throw a fit or it rubs them the wrong way which is understandable but the world doesn't always revolve around what we want when we want it. I’m not an expert but I did read in a health magazine similar to what Phil posted. I forget if cooking makes it worse or not. I think anything has the possibility of being carcinogenic b/c certain things affect people differently. I personally won’t be eating portobellos because I think I can live without them since I’m not a vegan. I personally feel if you expect more variety with regard to vegan dishes, you should patronize a vegan restaurant or write a letter of suggestion to the owner/manager of a restaurant you would like to see feature more vegan dishes. I don’t think you should’ve been shocked by the manager’s reaction, yeah, it was kind of rude, but you don’t own/run the restaurant. Sometimes I feel if people don’t get what they want merely b/c they suggest it, they throw a fit or it rubs them the wrong way which is understandable but the world doesn’t always revolve around what we want when we want it.

]]> By: Phil http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-353 Phil Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:33:23 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-353 Actually crimini and portobello mushroom are of the genus of mushroom called Agaricus. Agaricus mushrooms contain the compound hydrazine agaritine. The compounds labeled hydrazines are well documented as carcinogenic. In fact somewhere around 80% of hydrazine compounds have been proven in laboratory conditions to cause cancer/tumor formation. Also it should be noted that the chemical gyromitrin is found in mushrooms of this family. Gyromitrin is metabolized by the body to MMH which is a known carcinogen. Actually crimini and portobello mushroom are of the genus of mushroom called Agaricus. Agaricus mushrooms contain the compound hydrazine agaritine. The compounds labeled hydrazines are well documented as carcinogenic. In fact somewhere around 80% of hydrazine compounds have been proven in laboratory conditions to cause cancer/tumor formation. Also it should be noted that the chemical gyromitrin is found in mushrooms of this family. Gyromitrin is metabolized by the body to MMH which is a known carcinogen.

]]> By: ***The GirlieGirl Army*** » Blog Archive » May 6, 2008 http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-352 ***The GirlieGirl Army*** » Blog Archive » May 6, 2008 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:54:03 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-352 [...] one hipster restaurateur; “Portobellos cause cancer.” Read more from the [...] [...] one hipster restaurateur; “Portobellos cause cancer.” Read more from the [...]

]]> By: Michael http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-351 Michael Fri, 16 May 2008 03:05:22 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-351 Well said. I wonder if the commenter can imagine themselves saying something similar if they were living during the time when human slavery was widely practiced and supported by the dominant volue system. Not to mention this absurd notion that somehow it's more complicated to be vegan than not. How is it more complicated to live without supporting the systematic slavery and murder of other living beings? It's so sad that the machines of agribusiness have smoothed the process of slaughter into something so transparent that people think it's somehow more complicated or a burden to take a position of abolition in regards to non-human animal rights. Well said.

I wonder if the commenter can imagine themselves saying something similar if they were living during the time when human slavery was widely practiced and supported by the dominant volue system.

Not to mention this absurd notion that somehow it’s more complicated to be vegan than not. How is it more complicated to live without supporting the systematic slavery and murder of other living beings? It’s so sad that the machines of agribusiness have smoothed the process of slaughter into something so transparent that people think it’s somehow more complicated or a burden to take a position of abolition in regards to non-human animal rights.

]]> By: joshuakatcher http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-346 joshuakatcher Tue, 13 May 2008 13:59:19 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-346 You think I don't understand that most of our culture is systematically justifying the oppression of non-human animals? By no means do I expect most people to share a similar value system - I don't have this blog because I'm under some illusion that everyone is vegan. Wouldn't it be sort of useless if that were the case? You "certainly don't begrudge" my opinions? What kind of thing is this to say? That I have the approval of someone who subscribes to the dominant cultural values? This has to be one of the most patronizing comments I've gotten, although it could appear subtle to some. Veganism isn't about "me and my choice". This is not a consumer choice, or personal choice issue, it's a social justice issue. There are individuals who, because they can not say in a culturally recognized and accepted language "I do not want to be treated this way" are tortured and killed. Cries and attempts at moving away from sources of pain are not recognized as 'valid' in non-humans. 10 Billion farm animals are raised and slaughtered every year and there is little thought given to the fact that they have feelings, they suffer, they feel pain and fear, and people are complicit in this abuse, usually without knowing it. Every time I leave my apartment, and in every waking moment I understand deeply that the rest of the world does not revolve around my decision. That is exactly why I am doing this. <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967&q=earthlings&ei=QJ8pSO3BLaDk4AKY17zUCQ" rel="nofollow">Watch this video. You think I don’t understand that most of our culture is systematically justifying the oppression of non-human animals? By no means do I expect most people to share a similar value system – I don’t have this blog because I’m under some illusion that everyone is vegan. Wouldn’t it be sort of useless if that were the case? You “certainly don’t begrudge” my opinions? What kind of thing is this to say? That I have the approval of someone who subscribes to the dominant cultural values?

This has to be one of the most patronizing comments I’ve gotten, although it could appear subtle to some. Veganism isn’t about “me and my choice”. This is not a consumer choice, or personal choice issue, it’s a social justice issue. There are individuals who, because they can not say in a culturally recognized and accepted language “I do not want to be treated this way” are tortured and killed. Cries and attempts at moving away from sources of pain are not recognized as ‘valid’ in non-humans. 10 Billion farm animals are raised and slaughtered every year and there is little thought given to the fact that they have feelings, they suffer, they feel pain and fear, and people are complicit in this abuse, usually without knowing it.

Every time I leave my apartment, and in every waking moment I understand deeply that the rest of the world does not revolve around my decision. That is exactly why I am doing this.

Watch this video.

]]> By: Levi Gonzalez http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Levi Gonzalez Tue, 13 May 2008 04:13:25 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-347 If you make a choice to be vegan, i think you have to unerstand that the rest of the world doesnt revolve around that decision. I support the ethics and politics behind that decision, but dont kid yourself, its complicated... and you cant expect everyone to share your value system. That said, I certainly dont begrudge you airing your opinions about it. If you make a choice to be vegan, i think you have to unerstand that the rest of the world doesnt revolve around that decision. I support the ethics and politics behind that decision, but dont kid yourself, its complicated… and you cant expect everyone to share your value system. That said, I certainly dont begrudge you airing your opinions about it.

]]> By: joshuakatcher http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/05/04/no-mushrooms-in-fiore/comment-page-1/#comment-350 joshuakatcher Thu, 08 May 2008 19:46:55 +0000 http://thediscerningbrute.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-350 Pat, is that a proposition? Forever is a long time, you might get tired. Pat, is that a proposition? Forever is a long time, you might get tired.

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