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	<title>Comments on: Loden Dager, Stella &amp; Morrissey, and Lab Meat!</title>
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		<title>By: The Discerning Brute &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Loden Dager &#38; BBlessing: Sustainable Offerings Sale</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Discerning Brute &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Loden Dager &#38; BBlessing: Sustainable Offerings Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] say so on GILT, the Turquoise suit and Blue Stripe Blazer is in organic cotton, according to my contact at Loden Dager. Sustainably [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] say so on GILT, the Turquoise suit and Blue Stripe Blazer is in organic cotton, according to my contact at Loden Dager. Sustainably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This creates a grim picture of enormous meat factories kitted out like gyms where uncounted thousands of muscles silently work, unencumbered by bodies.&quot; Clearly the author has never seen the inside of a factory farm or slaughterhouse. Those are grimmer images by far. I have mixed feelings about this. Someone in my social circle is a microbiologist. He said this particular technology is essentially cloning and requires stem cells harvested -- initially, at least -- from animal fetuses. The stem cells themselves could be cloned after that, but he likened the process to making photocopies of photocopies -- eventually the image starts to break down and a new original must be created. So even if we eliminate killing animals for meat, we&#039;ll probably end up replacing factory farms and slaughterhouses with artificial insemination/abortion facilities and fetal processing plants. The cloned meat&#039;s lack of an immune system is irrelevent as long as it&#039;s grown in sterile conditions. (Compare that to our current meat supply *having* immune sytems yet being ripe with disease.) I don&#039;t know that I would ever eat cloned meat because I&#039;m enjoying my transition to a raw foods diet. Economics will determine how well the product is received by the general populace. If cloned mean is cheaper than animal flesh, you&#039;ll see it everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This creates a grim picture of enormous meat factories kitted out like gyms where uncounted thousands of muscles silently work, unencumbered by bodies.&#8221; Clearly the author has never seen the inside of a factory farm or slaughterhouse. Those are grimmer images by far. I have mixed feelings about this. Someone in my social circle is a microbiologist. He said this particular technology is essentially cloning and requires stem cells harvested &#8212; initially, at least &#8212; from animal fetuses. The stem cells themselves could be cloned after that, but he likened the process to making photocopies of photocopies &#8212; eventually the image starts to break down and a new original must be created. So even if we eliminate killing animals for meat, we&#8217;ll probably end up replacing factory farms and slaughterhouses with artificial insemination/abortion facilities and fetal processing plants. The cloned meat&#8217;s lack of an immune system is irrelevent as long as it&#8217;s grown in sterile conditions. (Compare that to our current meat supply *having* immune sytems yet being ripe with disease.) I don&#8217;t know that I would ever eat cloned meat because I&#8217;m enjoying my transition to a raw foods diet. Economics will determine how well the product is received by the general populace. If cloned mean is cheaper than animal flesh, you&#8217;ll see it everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Capestany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Capestany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides Novacas, and the exorbitantly priced Noharm, are there any really good lines of vegan men&#039;s shoes? Whatever happened to OlsenHaus&#039; supposed line of men&#039;s shoes coming out??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides Novacas, and the exorbitantly priced Noharm, are there any really good lines of vegan men&#8217;s shoes? Whatever happened to OlsenHaus&#8217; supposed line of men&#8217;s shoes coming out??</p>
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