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		<title>DB Interviews: NIGEL BARKER</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<span class="image-rss"><a href="http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2009/04/09/db-interviews-nigel-barker/"><img title="DB Interviews: NIGEL BARKER" src="http://thediscerningbrute.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/nigelbarker.jpg" alt="DB Interviews: NIGEL BARKER" width="149" height="200" /></a></span><br/>Nigel Barker cares about stuff - and he's not a sissy. I recently chatted on the phone with this amazingly talented, compassionate, and influential photographer. We talked about everything from his fashion industry work, to his time spent in Haiti exposing some of the worst poverty, to his documentation of the controversial seal hunt. He [...]]]></description>
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<div class="image" style="text-align: left;"><strong>Nigel Barker cares about stuff - and he's not a sissy.</strong> I recently chatted on the phone with this amazingly talented, compassionate, and influential photographer. We talked about everything from his fashion industry work, to his time spent in Haiti exposing some of the worst poverty, to his documentation of the controversial seal hunt. He doesn't think that you can be a fur-wearing environmentalist, and he likes to shop thrift. <em></em><a href="http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/NigelBarker_1-2.mp3">NigelBarker_1-2</a></div>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://www.nigelbarker.tv/blog/images/h01.jpg" alt="" width="466" height="349" /> <img src="http://www.nigelbarker.tv/blog/images/seal-08-01.jpg" alt="" width="466" height="350" /> <strong>Things We Talked About:</strong></p>

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	<li><a title="Nigel Barker" href="http://www.nigelbarker.tv" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nigelbarker.tv?referer=');">Nigel Barker</a></li>
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	<li><a title="Edeyo" href="http://www.edeyo.org/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.edeyo.org/?referer=');">Edeyo</a></li>
	<li><a title="Cool Vs. Cruel" href="http://www.hsus.org/furfree/news/cool_vs_cruel_2008_awards_111308.html" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hsus.org/furfree/news/cool_vs_cruel_2008_awards_111308.html?referer=');">Cool Vs. Cruel</a></li>
	<li><a title="A Sealed Fate" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMT-5v3dz1U" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMT-5v3dz1U&amp;referer=');">"A Sealed Fate"</a></li>
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	<li><a title="Skinny Bastard" href="http://www.amazon.com/Skinny-Bastard-Rory-Freedman/dp/0762435402" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/Skinny-Bastard-Rory-Freedman/dp/0762435402?referer=');">Skinny Bastard</a></li>
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		<title>Fresh Friday Finds</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<span class="image-rss"><a href="http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/11/07/fresh-friday-finds-19/"><img title="Fresh Friday Finds" src="http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/uploaded_images/battery2-700678.jpg" alt="Fresh Friday Finds" width="200" height="152" /></a></span><br/>1. History has been made as Proposition 2 passed in California. Thanks to the extraordinary efforts of animal advocates around the country, 20 million farm animals' lives will improve with the removal of veal crates, gestation crates, and battery cages. The news, Wayne Pacelle's Blog: What it means for animals. 2. Beef jerky is consumed by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span class="image-rss"><a href="http://www.thediscerningbrute.com/2008/11/07/fresh-friday-finds-19/"><img title="Fresh Friday Finds" src="http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/uploaded_images/battery2-700678.jpg" alt="Fresh Friday Finds" width="200" height="152" /></a></span><br/><strong>1. History has been made</strong> as Proposition 2 passed in California. Thanks to the extraordinary efforts of animal advocates around the country, 20 million farm animals' lives will improve with the removal of veal crates, gestation crates, and battery cages. <a href="http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournews/prop2_california_110408.html" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournews/prop2_california_110408.html?referer=');">The news</a>, <a href="http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/hsus.typepad.com/wayne/?referer=');">Wayne Pacelle's Blog: What it means for animals.</a>

<a href="http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/hsus.typepad.com/wayne/?referer=');"><img src="http://images.quickblogcast.com/94249-86975/blog_gestation_crates.jpg" alt="http://images.quickblogcast.com/94249-86975/blog_gestation_crates.jpg" width="129" height="86" /><img src="http://images.quickblogcast.com/94249-86975/blog_veal.jpg" alt="http://images.quickblogcast.com/94249-86975/blog_veal.jpg" width="127" height="87" /><img src="http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/uploaded_images/battery2-700678.jpg" alt="http://www.wesleyjsmith.com/blog/uploaded_images/battery2-700678.jpg" width="115" height="87" /></a>

<img class="alignright" src="http://www.fritolay.com/images/cm/mid_products_oberto_1_.gif" alt="http://www.fritolay.com/images/cm/mid_products_oberto_1_.gif" width="106" height="120" /><strong>2. Beef jerky is consumed by real men.</strong> At least that's what Umberto's new campaign '<a title="Oberto" href="http://eatlikeanalpha.com/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/eatlikeanalpha.com/?referer=');"><em>Eat Like An Alpha</em></a>' wants you to think. The website is so full of insulting, stereotypical, and gender-defining crap that I almost didn't notice how gross the shriveled-up-flesh product is.

<strong>3. Custom Vegan Shoes!</strong> All you have to do is send in an image of the shoe or boot you want to Vegan Wares, and they'll make it vegan! Holy Cow-less! <a title="Custome Vegan Shoes" href="http://veganwares.com/mto.htm" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/veganwares.com/mto.htm?referer=');">CLICK HERE!</a>

<img src="http://veganwares.com/crumpleboota.jpg" alt="" width="153" height="147" />

<strong>4. Fur-Free Fashion Week!</strong>

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There are so many fashion events to go to this week! Start out at HSUS' Cool Vs. Cruel on November 12th in NYC, celebrating Calvin Klein. But first vote on the people's choice award for the<a title="CvC" href="http://www.hsus.org/forms/cool_vs_cruel_2008_peoples_choice.html" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hsus.org/forms/cool_vs_cruel_2008_peoples_choice.html?referer=');"> CvC design contest</a>! Then go to Friends of Animals' '<a title="Reception Beyone Fur" href="http://community.icontact.com/p/friends_of_animals/newsletters/friends_of_animals_email_list/posts/nyc-reception-beyond-fur" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/community.icontact.com/p/friends_of_animals/newsletters/friends_of_animals_email_list/posts/nyc-reception-beyond-fur?referer=');">Reception Beyond Fur</a>' on November 24th in NYC! See you there! Lastly, don't forget the classic <a title="Fure free Friday" href="http://ga0.org/indefenseofanimals/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=15853635" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/ga0.org/indefenseofanimals/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=15853635&amp;referer=');"><em>Fur Free Friday </em></a>on November 28th targeting ShopNBC and Nordstrom.

<span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:x-small;"><img style="margin:0;" title="anti-fur poster" src="http://friendsofanimals.org/mm5/graphics/00000001/1999ad.jpg" border="1" alt="anti-fur poster" width="250" height="100" /></span></span>

<a title="Dirt Candy" href="http://www.dirtcandynyc.com/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.dirtcandynyc.com/?referer=');"><img class="alignright" src="http://www.dirtcandynyc.com/wp-content/themes/dirtcandy/images/logo.gif" alt="Dirt Candy Logo" width="141" height="152" /></a><strong>5.</strong><strong> New vegetarian restaurant <a href="http://www.dirtcandynyc.com/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.dirtcandynyc.com/?referer=');">Dirt Candy</a> </strong>has already won me over with their tag-line "<em>Anyone can cook a hamburger, but leave the vegetables to the professionals</em>".

<a title="Dirt Candy" href="http://www.dirtcandynyc.com/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.dirtcandynyc.com/?referer=');"><img src="http://www.dirtcandynyc.com/wp-content/themes/dirtcandy/images/header2.jpg" alt="Dirt Candy Header Image" width="398" height="138" /></a>

<strong>BRUTAL ADVICE</strong>

I got this letter from a reader the other day:
<pre style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="color:#008000;"><em>Dear Discerning Brute,</em></span></pre>
<pre style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="color:#008000;"><em>I've been talking with this guy lately, and we've gone out a few
times. Problem is, he's not even vegetarian (I'm a vegan). I honestly
just can't let myself "look past it"--in my opinion, it's like dating
someone of a completely different religion and neither of you want to
convert; the individual in question may be an all-around great person,
but to figure them into a relationship might not be the best idea, for
both parties.
</em><em>
Am I just being paranoid? I live in a small town in the South,
visit NYC often (family in Brooklyn) and plan to move there upon
graduation. Needless to say, it is VERY difficult to find vegan men
around here! :)
</em><em>
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
<a title="Vegan &amp; the City" href="http://flvegan.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/flvegan.wordpress.com/?referer=');">"Vegan &amp; the City"</a>
</em></span>
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<h5><span style="color:#333333;">Dear "Vegan &amp; the City"</span></h5>
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<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">I <em>completely</em> know where you're coming from! I've dated the vegan, vegetarian, and the omnivorous, and there is simply no rhyme or reason to evaluating the potentials of a relationship on that alone.
</span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">If you decided to come out as a <em>vegansexual</em> in your small town and date only the veg, you are probably cutting down your pool of available bachelors in the US by 90%, and in your hometown by 99.99%. I don't recommend going this route, though it has its benefits: No need to explain yourself at meals, and less conflict of values. Is this enough in itself to make a relationship work? Not necessarily. I'd say that if everything else is working, the best thing you can do is be patient, compassionate, and steadfast. If he is a good guy, he will find joy in understanding you and he will become inquisitive without you having to push your values on him.
</span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">There are several things to be careful of as an equal-opportunity dater: </span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">First, </span><span style="color:#333333;">It's important to distinguish that your veganism is not a religion. It is not faith-based. Rather, you are a voluntary spokesperson for a social justice struggle. You must make that clear so he respects it as a choice, not as a persuit of faith-driven puritanism. Second, if he decides eventually to go veg for you, or for any reason - </span><span style="color:#333333;">be careful not to end up in a teacher-student dynamic. Often, when I've dated non-vegans who decide to go cold turkey on cold turkey, I end up being their vegan guru (whether I liked it or not) and that can totally kill the chemistry. If this happens, makes sure to have a book and a video to hand over, and step back and let them sort it out without being the babysitter or the critic.</span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">It sounds like if you really like him, you have to stand your ground, and insist on being respected as an animal advocate. If he can deal with that, it's a start. That means he should never, ever put you in an uncomfortable position concerning animals, even if he eats them on his own time. There is no need to accommodate his meat-eating any more than you would accommodate any other sort of disrespect. If he continuously disrespects, ridicules, or marginalizes your advocacy, it's time to lose him and move on. </span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">Yours, </span></h5>
<h5 style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#333333;">DB</span></h5>
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